Fleeing Ukrainian scientists on their country's future: ‘Values suddenly don't count’
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Fleeing Ukrainian scientists on their country's future: ‘Values suddenly don't count’

13 March 2025
Safe Haven Fellow Yuliia Kurnyshova and Duisenberg Fellow Oleksandra Moskalenko were interviewed by NRC on the latest developments in Ukraine.

This enlightening interview in NRC with Duisenberg Fellow Oleksandra Moskalenko and Safe Haven Fellow Yuliia Kurnyshova sheds light on what’s brewing in and around Ukraine.

A fragment: “The main difference with Moscow is that Trump wants a quick fix, a ceasefire at any cost – at the expense of Ukraine. Russia has no interest in quick solutions. It is not going to stop fighting, not going to stop the violence. What Putin wants is to make Trump an ally in a bloody appeasement. Moscow wants a comprehensive settlement that is a return to the 1945 Yalta conference when the allies divided Europe into spheres of influence.”

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